British Trade dollar Year 1908 ( 3 variants exists)

There are 3 variants for British Trade Dollar year 1908

Variant 1: British trade dollar 1908 Bombay mint

This is the commoner type from Bombay Mint
Recorded mintage of  6,870,741 makes this coin a common year coin

A good coin with fairly nice details.
However, the B on the prong is not a clear B.
Some quarters has over the years argued that the unclear B coin
raises the suspicion that this is a restruck coin by Chinese using 0.900 silver over the same period
Real Great Britain Bombay Mint trade dollar has a perfect B inscription.

Variant 2: 1908 over 07 Overdates British Trade Dollar
The overdate variant is of unknown quantity.
This is a scarcer dates to find

It is not that difficult to spot the overdate as the tail of 7 will stand out below the 8 circle.

Variant 3: British Trade Dollar 1908 over 03 Over date
Another piece of scarce overdate.

This overdate is more difficult to spot as the crafted 8 on 3 matches considerably.
I personally have problem identify the overdates for this coin.

The 8 and 3 can matches considerably

This is from another piece, i wondered if this is an overdate

Straits Settlements Dollar Year 1904 (4 Die Variety at the Year Inscription)

This blog post was created out of my curiosity.
Recently a  prominent retailer put up a whole lots of 1904 Straits Settlements Dollar on internet site. (a total of >10 coins) and i made the survey to see through if i can find the date variety as stated in catalogue.

Year 1904 Straits Settlements Dollar has total mintage of over 20 millions copies.
4 varieties in the date inscription is known to date.

The Observe are all the same

This is my amateur attempt to describe the difference via pictorial.
(i apologize for the slight rotated pics as the initial loaded pics were rotated as well.)

Variety One: Close 4 in date variety

1. The gap between <0 and 4> is closer than <9 and 0>
2. The height of 4 is parallel with 0

Variety Two: Close high 4 in date variety

1. The gap is closer as the first variety example
2. The height of 4 is higher than 0

Variety Three : Very close 4 in date variety

The gap between the <0 and 4> is even smaller if compared with close 4 varieties above

Variety Four: Wide High 4 in date variety

1. The <0 and 4> gap is wider compared to the above 3 varieties. (almost same space like the <9 and 0> gap)
2. The 4 is higher than the 0

As i stated in the mintage table, not many collectors take note of the varieties here.
However if you have a huge collections for 1904 Straits Dollars, why not search and see if you have all those in your collections.

A High Grade MS65 British Trade Dollar Year 1902 !!??!!

This listing was found on ebay.
http://www.ebay.com.my/itm/1902-UK-trade-dollar-NGC-MS65-/321135919346?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item4ac53140f2&_uhb=1#ht_500wt_923 (when link broken means listing has ended)

It is a NGC graded MS65 British trade dollar.
It is verifyable at NGC coin verification site.

The price quote is standard price for a MS65 coins.
Though NGC must have their reasons for giving a MS65 grade.
Would you be buying this coin??

It may be a MS65 coins, but personally i think the coin is lacking the eye appeals.
I would rather keep a nice lusters coin then this "superbly toned coin."
Nevertheless, i admit that I do have personal liking to a coloured and rainbow toned coin, but not of this type.
This remains a personal opinion.

What you think??

British Trade Dollars as ornamental belt

Have you ever wondered how come there is a little hook attached to some of these silver coins ?

They are mostly for ornamental purpose.

In the land of Borneo Island, the traditional tribes there likes to use these big silver coins as belt. It is used in their traditional dance.

A fine example is like this:

Note of thanks to Mr BK Lau for use of this image.

In the example above, the hook is at the sides --> joined into a belt.

In the example below, the hook is attached at 12 o clock; this type is usually attached to a chain for use as pendent.

And... How about this piece:  An original nice pendent.

Special thanks to Mr Bk Lau (used with consent)
http://www.ebay.com.my/itm/British-Trade-Dollar-Pendant-/251288156020?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_207&hash=item3a81f0f774&_uhb=1#ht_500wt_1156

The Origins of Straits Settlements Dollar (Part 1 of 3)

Violent fluctuation of  gold and silver between 1893 to 1896 has raised the necessity to stabilize the value of local dollar (British Trade Dollar) at that time. From 1895-1903, British trade dollar is accepted as the standard silver dollar in Straits settlements as stipulated in the Ordinance 1895.


A committee was appointed by Singapore Chamber of Commerce to enquire into local currency and question of a Gold Standard. The committee however did not enforce any change due to criticism from the Federated Malay States, which was formed in 1895.

The evolution of Malaysia. Source: Wikipedia.

As silver price continue to fall, on 1902, a commission was appointed to consider changing from a Silver Standard to Gold Standard, with the objective of stabilizing the rate of exchange of the silver dollar in London.

The commission noticed that there are NO STANDARD COIN peculiar to the Colony and the neighboring Malay States. Hence, the commission made the following recommendations:

1. A straits settlements dollar should be introduced of the same weight and fineness as the existing British trade dollar
2. British, Mexican and other dollars should be demonetized as soon as adequate supply of the new coins was available.
3. Coinage of the new dollar should cease as soon as sufficient supply was in circulation and its exchange value had reached the value in relation to the gold sovereign that should be settled as the future value of the straits dollar.

The report was made on 17th May 1903, and immediate actions was taken to carry out the recommendations concerning the issue of a straits settlements dollar and eventual plan of bringing the colony to a gold standard.

This marked the birth of the straits settlements dollar. Between 1903 and 1904, a total of 35 million new straits settlements dollars were minted. (Refer mintage table page above)

With regards to the British Trade Dollar

1. It ceased to be the silver dollar for straits settlements and British Malay colonies from 1903 onwards.
2. It essentially became the Hong Kong trade dollar only from then onwards.
3. It also explains the low mintage of 1904 British Trade Dollars of only 690,000 + as the Bombay mint capacity is now focused on minting the new straits settlements dollars

End of part 1.... Continue part 2(specifications of Straits settlements dollars)

British Trade Dollar Year 1907 (A Scarce Year and a few known 1907/7B)

British trade dollar 1907 is a straight forward year.
It has a total mintage of 1,945,726.
This relative low mintage amount makes this a better date / scarce date coin.

It has only two variant - 1907B and 1907/7 B (retooled die according to NGC)

Variety 1 - British Trade Dollar 1907B
Minted by Bombay Mint.
I was quite lucky to have collected few nice pieces of 1907B BTD.
They are among the best coins in the collection.

Nice details overall.
Most UNC normal regular strike silver coins will have grainy surfaces
One way to differentiate these remnants is original or bagmark / surface hairlines is looking at this grains to see if it is incused or raised. (Raised = from the mint, Incused = bagmark / hairlines)

Variety 2 - relatively unknown 1907/7B British trade Dollar
If you go to the British trade dollar mintage table, the lower section table from NGC.
There is a variety from 1907/7B British Trade Dollar
It is most likely a retooled die.

It came up in Mavin auction in Singapore earlier this year (2013). NGC graded.
This picture is taken from Live auctioner covering the auction.
I do not have this coin yet.

It is quite difficult to see the 7 retooled from this pic though.
However a closer examination from NGC pics, showed that the upper bridge of the 7 seems to be broken on the beginning part to the left.
Compare with the sample above, the "7"upper bridge in this retooled coin is shorter than the normal one.
And the normal 7 has a little curve at the head, the retooled one seems to have lost that curve at the beginning.

British Trade Dollar Year 1904 (Rare and Unique Years with Multiple Variants)

British trade dollar for year 1904 across the all varieties are RARE.
It has a combined mintage of only 648,847 pieces.
Its rarity makes this coin the either 4th or 5th most expensive trade dollar year to own.

It existed in 4 different varieties.
One normal BTD and 3 are overdates varieties.
And all are from Bombay Mint, hence the B mint mark can be seen at the center of the prong.

Variety One: Normal British Trade Dollar 1904 B
This is the normal variety.

This coin is NGC certified XF details.
Higher grade coins then this can be very expensiove due to its rarity

Variety Two: British Trade Dollar 1904 over 3 B
This Variety has the "4" struck over the "3" and can be seen at the 4th digit.
It is retooled from the 1903 die. 
This variety is rare.

This is also NGC graded XF details 1904/03B overdate.
This coin overdate "3" shadow can still be seen very clearly on the shadow

Variety Three: British Trade Dollar 1904 over 0 B
This variety has the "4" struck over the "0" 
This is retooled from a 1900 die
My copy showed the "0" very faintly and can easily miss.
This variety is even rarer.

This is 1904/0 B However, the 0 can only be faintly seen.
There are only a little bit of remnants left.
This is among my collections that needs upgrading to clearer overdate sample piece.

Variety Four: British Trade Dollar 1904 over "898" B
This is the most unique of all the 4 variants.
It is retooled from a old year 1898 die.
Hence due to the cross of a century. It resulted in an overdate over 3 digits.
This variety is extremely rare.

This is NGC graded AU details 1904/898B
The AU grading is quite generous by NGC
8 is seen behind the 9 and 4
The 9 tail can be seen sticking out from the 0

In my next post, will give my hypotheses why 1904 British trade dollar recorded such a low mintage.

Thanks for vieiwng